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September 6[edit source | edit]

How to add Company Information to Wikiafripedia?[edit source | edit]


I want to know how to submit information of my Company and Products to Wikiafripedia? Thanks β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Softsolspk (talk β€’ contribs) 08:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Softsolspk: First, let me explain what Wikiafripedia is: a volunteer-driven summary of professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Not an advertising service.
Your username violates our policy on usernames, as it is the name of a company. There's a variety of problems with your account that you must fix before trying to do anything else (or else you will be blocked for violating our terms of use). Ian.thomson (talk) 09:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Bulgarians are not Turkic[edit source | edit]

Bulgarians are not Turkic. Bulgarians are the old local population called also in the past "Thracians" (Edoni, Kekoni, Sarmati, Misi, Geti, Mirmidoni, etc.). There are many ancient documents about that, and also in addition, there was a DNA test that proves 40% of the DNA that today's Bulgarians are having is same as Thracian rulers, that are found on our lands. And the most close nationalities to us are Macedonians, Romanians and people from North Italy regions. On of the Byzantium history writers mentions that: "Asparukh (the "creator" of Bulgaria in 681) came with hundreds of thousands of Bulgarians and others, to TAKE BACK the lands, that he owns by his father's and born right!". β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

You don't say which article(s) you're writing about. For any article that's affected, please make your case on its talk page, of course specifying reliable, published sources for what you claim. To find an article's talk page, look within it for a link labelled "Talk". Click that, and start a new thread at the foot of the talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 11:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Search[edit source | edit]

I am curious how the search function works. I typed in the name of the third-place horse (Mr. Big News) in the 2020 Kentucky Derby. None of the hits took me to anything about this horse. Why didn't the 2020 Kentucky Derby come up as a hit? Kdammers (talk) 12:28, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

I typed Mr Big News into the search box and hit "Go", the 2020 Kentucky Derby was the fifth result. DuncanHill (talk) 12:33, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Table Editing. Centering Text[edit source | edit]

I've looked "everywhere"... how does one center text in any of a table's cell, a column, a row or even the entire table? β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudolf.Fernandes (talk β€’ contribs) 12:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

You'll see some advice at m:Template talk:Table demo, and also in Help:Table#Positioning. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Question on how to improve Jonas S. Chartock[edit source | edit]

Hello πŸ‘‹. While patrolling recent changes, I ran into the Jonas S. Chartock article. Which appears to read like a resume, and had a number of external links that seamed to be promotional. I tried to clean up the page a little. My question is three-fold:

  1. Do you have any feedback on the changes that I made?
  2. What are some things I can do to further improve the article?
  3. Is this article even noteworthy enough to justify existence?

Some thoughts I had:

  • The Music section seams mostly irrelevant as it reference bands that are themselves don't have their own articles and are probably not noteworthy enough to merit an article.
  • I'd probably say the same for the acting section also seams irrelevant because although many of the films are on IMDb, they are not high budget films/series/shorts and are probably also not noteworthy enough for an article.
  • There are a lot of awards listed in the "career in education service," I'm not sure they belong in the article either because the awards themselves aren't from notable sources.

I realise that this discussion should ultimately be in the articles talk page, but as a relatively new editor, I was hoping to get some general guidance first.

motevets (talk) 18:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

When I read "Jonas S. Chartock ... is a social impact entrepreneur", I automatically translate it as "self-promoting bullshitter". So I am an unsuitable person to make impartial comments. But your removal of direct external links is clearly supported by Wikiafripedia policy. Maproom (talk) 22:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Motevets, your changes seem fine, but I would suggest reviewing its notability before doing further work. The article was nominated for speedy deletion on 4 September by an IPA on the grounds that it wasn't notable, which failed as the reason wasn't on the list of speedy deletion criteria. If it is not notable it could be deleted via proposed deletion or articles for deletion nomination. TSventon (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Maproom and TSventon for the feedback and suggestions. I proposed the deletion of the article with WP:PROD. motevets (talk) 20:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Template trouble[edit source | edit]

Hello, I created the template Template: Brass instruments and somehow also created the template Template: Brass Instruments. Now they seem to be broken. I thought titles weren't case sensitive like that. Now on pages, like Flumpet it shows the template incorrectly (see how Bore is red-linked on that page). Can anybody help me remedy this? | Why? I Ask (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Why? I Ask, "Bore" appears to be fixed now. Only the first character is always capitalised, even if it is linked using a lowercase character; everything past that is case-sensitive. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 20:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Tenryuu, are you sure? On the template itself it's fixed but on the actual pages (i.e. Flumpet) it's wrong. Also, If I type in Template:mUsiCal InstrUMENts it still leads me to Template:Musical instruments but it's not the same case for my predicament; they link to two different pages. Another question, why does it go Template: Brass Instruments β†’ "V" (View this template) β†’ Template: Brass instruments? - Why? I Ask (talk) 20:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Why? I Ask, have you tried purging the page? I clicked on "Bore" in the template in Flumpet and it brings me to Bore (wind instruments); I'm assuming that is the intended destination. Text in the search field is less case-sensitive, but page titles are; see WP:NCCPT for more information. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 20:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
@Why? I Ask: Note, too, that if you type something in the search box at the top right of the page, and it results in only a single search result, it takes you directly to that page, even if what you typed is not an exact match (this may be configurable IIRC, but it works that way for me). If I type Template:MaTtEl in the search box, it goes directly to the {{Mattel}} navbox template; however, {{MaTtEl}} is a redlink and transcludes an error. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 22:13, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Tenryuu, I added some screenshots (I hope that is fine). See how on the actual page, the template isn't right? (Bore not linked, Flumpet missing). But in the editor (I used visual) it loads correctly. I wanna know why that's happening. I have replaced it over and over but no dice.

@Why? I Ask: I see the Bore redlink in the first screenshot. It doesn't happen for me here. Questions/ideas:

  • If you click on the Bore link, what happens? What address is shown in the resulting window's address bar and what's in the title bar at the very top of the browser window?
  • Have you cleared your cache (Ctrl-F5 on most browsers)?
  • What browser are you using? Can you try a different one?
  • If you bring up a private/incognito browser window and go to the Frumpet page (as an anonymous non-logged-in user), is the link still red?
  • Unrelated, the Cornu, Helicon, Mouthpiece, and Falset items all point to disambiguation pages (i.e., they need to be pointed to the correct pages, e.g., [[Cornu]] β†’ [[Cornu (horn)|]]).

β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 08:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Reply to AlanM1 by user: Why? I Ask
  • Bore (wind instrument) instead of Bore (wind instruments); I originally put it wrong when I first made the template and later corrected it * Yes, I have as well as browser history (restarted computer as well)
  • Latest stable version of Google Chrome
  • Logging out seems to work and show it correctly but why would it not work if I'm logged in?
  • Thank you for pointing that out; I'm refraining from making any edits to the template though in case it messes something up further Why? I Ask (talk) 09:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@Why? I Ask: Did you clear your cache (Ctrl-F5)? Also try clicking here to purge the server-side rendered page cache (and then clear your local cache again). β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 09:49, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1: Alright, purging it seems to have worked. Thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated. One last question; do you know why I had to purge this particular page to see it load correctly and not any of the other ones that use the template? Why? I Ask (talk) 10:04, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@Why? I Ask: Sorry, no. It is odd. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 10:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Dick Traum, incorrect information , how to edit.?[edit source | edit]

Should read β€œhe retired in 2019” Not he was ousted

Question, can we find out who entered this recent incorrect information? β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:E042:3B00:95F1:3B97:28FF:2F0C (talk) 20:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

If you go to the page's "history" (top right) and search through the changes you can find that it was user:2601:600:8780:5db0:48a7:6d81:5176:e254. Why? I Ask (talk) 20:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi IP, here is the IP who made the changes: 2601:600:8780:5DB0:48A7:6D81:5176:E254. As it is an IP, you can take a look at where it is located and see other information by using the links at the bottom on the page, such as "WHOIS" and "Geolocate". As for the page, anyone can edit Wikiafripedia, so you can click "edit" and change this information yourself. Many thanks, Ed talk! 20:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

But you should have a reference from a reliable source as should the person who put it in.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:24, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help creating template[edit source | edit]

I'm trying to create a template for CBC Radio programs at Template:CBC Radio Programs (current and upcoming) but I've malformed the template somehow and don't know how to fix it. Can someone please help? Thanks Sowny (talk) 23:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Sowny, I fixed it in this diff. Does that look right? β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 23:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Brilliant! Thanks! Sowny (talk) 23:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Just one more thing - when I put the template in an article such as As It Happens there's a gap between it and the next template rather than the two templates stacking nicely on top of each other. How can that be fixed? Thanks. Sowny (talk) 23:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Sowny, I'm not sure what you mean. I'm looking at the page and the two are collapsed on top of each other with no gap in between. Would you happen to have been using the VisualEditor? β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 00:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@Sowny: I took out a newline with this edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

September 7[edit source | edit]

Need help figuring out a new page[edit source | edit]

I created a new page following the guidelines but after moving it, I got the message "This sandbox is in the article namespace. Either move this page into your userspace, or remove the {{User sandbox}}template." Does anyone know what I should do? Thank you Medrine Nyambura (talk) 02:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Medrine Nyambura, it looks like Eagleash did it for you already. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 02:49, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Medrine Nyambura: Hello, as the message implies you should remove the sandbox template. This can be found at the top of the source. In this case, I have done this. I have also tidied the first section a little. Need to mention that you cannot use Wikiafripedia as a reference (see WP:UGC) and also punctuation goes before refs. Main headings should be delineated by two equals signs (==) and sub headings by three or four if necessary. Don't leave gaps between refs and I might suggest a quick review of the manual of style. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 02:53, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

where i can ask my question?[edit source | edit]

User blocked Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I asked a question but it went away. People are saying that i attacked but policy say i can ask question so i asked question but it got deleted too. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarfow (talk β€’ contribs) 03:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

For reference, see this ad hominem, this question about how to cheat NPA, and this bout of homophobia. β€”A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 03:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Jarfow, you did make personal attacks, and as for where you can ask such questions, nowhere on Wikiafripedia. Meters (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Redirecting a page[edit source | edit]

I would like to nominate a page for redirection. The article Delta FM is pretty much redundant now. When the station closed it merged with Kestrel FM. This page then redirected to The Breeze, which now in turn should probably redirect to Greatest Hits Radio as The Breeze has also closed. Therefore, I would like to to nominate Delta FM to be redirected to Greatest Hits Radio. I have attempted to do the nomination myself but got very confused. Any help would be gratefully received. - Funky Snack (Talk) 08:36, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I disagree with this proposal. The Delta FM article contains historical information which is not currently also present in the Greatest Hits Radio article (or elsewhere), and would consequently be lost by a mere redirect. I notice also that Kestrel FM now redirects to Greatest Hits Radio Berkshire & North Hampshire, which is apparently an ongoing entity separate from Greatest Hits Radio.
So, we have (at least) five variously related extinct and extant stations to deal with, which if merged as far as possible, would make for confusing reading. It seems to me that it is less confusing to maintain separate articles that include clear indications of these stations' historical relationships.
This is not to say that the four articles as they now are could not stand further clarification, perhaps by devising a diagram to show their relationships, and I could see an argument for restoring Kestrel FM as a separate article. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 11:16, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
I think you're missing my point here. I was asking for someone to put in a RfD for me. What you say about Greatest Hits Radio Berkshire & North Hampshire being separate from Greatest Hits Radio, that's not true. It's a networked radio station. - Funky Snack (Talk) 15:39, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
In which case, ought we to not have (at least) two separate articles about it/them, but rather sections for the geographic subdivisions under GHR (eliminating GHRB&NH as a separate article)?
You are right that I missed your point, and I'm still not quite sure what it is, but since I have no particular interest in the subject matter (despite being a Hampshire resident) I think I'll bow out of further participation in this issue. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 04:23, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Just because something has ceased to operate it does not necessarily mean that it is no longer notable. There are plenty of such organisations (and in fact people ) who no longer exist which are still notable.. Some of them have passed on their work to other organisations because they have been taken over or because they were privatised ore sold off in bits. Some of them have just been wound up ,or in the case of people ,died. Would you say the following are no longer notable: Queen Elizabeth I, Britiish East India Company, British Railways, Royal Leicestershire Regiment, Czechoslovakia, Austin Motor Company etc? I think what is required is a statement in the Delta article to the effect that it merged with Kestrel. If Kestrel has an article of its own it should be blue linked in the Delta article, which is in fact what happened. Whether Delta was itself notable in the first place is a different question. So is whether a notable person or thing can become forgetable with the passage of time. Delta has been out of business for ten years. I think it would probably take longer than that. William Wyggeston (or Wigston) was notable in the early 16th century but he may or may not be notable now. (he was a wealthy wool merchant and philanthropist and was several times Mayor of Leicester) I haven't checked if he has a wikipedia page. Hope this helps.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC) I have just checked and he does have a page. I see he was also Mayor of Calais (then an English possession)Spinney Hill (talk) 08:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Requesting you to review the page[edit source | edit]

Hello. I'm requesting wikipedia to review this page and publish it as an article. Thank you in advance. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavan139 (talk β€’ contribs) 10:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pavan139: I have submitted the draft for review on your behalf. Notice the big yellow box at the top of the page. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 10:25, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
When you contribute something to Wikiafripedia, Pavan139, you are told: "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." I have deleted this draft, because a substantial percentage of it was copied from this page. -- Hoary (talk) 12:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Mr.Hoary the link that you are mentioning was an event that was held in November 2019. The article I have drafted for is a band that was established in the year 2018. I myself provided the profile of the band to the organizers. Its my own original content and the content mentioned on that page is not copyrighted material. So i request you to restore the draft and publish it. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Pavan139 (talk β€’ contribs) 12:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Pavan139. The material on that page has been published therefore it is copyright. If you are indeed the holder of the copyright, then you have the power to license it in a way that Wikiafripedia will accept it (see donating copyright materials; but I suggest you don't do that, because it is very unlikely to be appropriately neutral| in tone. Remember that Wikiafripedia is basically not interested in anything said by the subject of an article about themselves, or by their associates: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and have not been prompted or fed information by the subject, have chosen to publish about it. So your material on the band is irrelevant to Wikiafripedia: you need to find some independent sources about it. You also need to read about editing with a conflict of interest if you hve not already done so. --ColinFine (talk) 13:36, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

new addition: Isobel Sarah Frye[edit source | edit]

Isobel Sarah Frye is a lawyer and social justice activist.

Frye was born in Cape Town, South Africa, on 8 December 1971, the second daughter of Jennifer, a high school teacher, and John Frye, an Anglican priest.

Frye spent her formative years in constant motion as her father was transferred to parishes in the Eastern and Western Cape. She became politicised in the 1980s primarily due to her father’s work. Frye joined NUSAS when she enrolled at UCT to study a BA Llb in 1990, in its last days.

Frye worked as an attorney at Walker’s Attorneys as a commercial litigator from 1996 to 2002, becoming one of the first two female directors. She then left and joined the Black Sash as their National Advocacy Manager until joining NALEDI, the research service NGO of COSATU in 2004.

Frye is the founding director of not for profit research organisation Studies in Poverty and Inequality Institute (SPII) in 2006. She is one of the foremost commentators on a universal basic income grant in South Africa. She has represented Community Constituency in policy negotiations at NEDLAC since 2002. Frye was appointed one of the first National Minimum Wage commissioners byt eh Minister of Labour in January 2019. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. If you think Wikiafripedia should have an article about Frye, you are welcome to try creating one (but be warned that creating an article is one of the most difficult tasks there is for an inexperienced editor). Posting this material here will probably have no effect whatever. My suggestion would be to create an account, spend a few months improving existing articles and learning how Wikiafripedia works, and then, when you feel ready, read your first article and think about creating a draft about Frye - provided you can find the reliable published sources necessary to establish that she meets Wikiafripedia's criteria for notability. --ColinFine (talk) 13:39, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikiafripedia page is redirected[edit source | edit]


The wikipedia page for David Day, Canadian Writer has been redirected to "Reception of J. R. R. Tolkien From Wikiafripedia, the free encyclopedia

 (Redirected from David Day (Canadian writer))" 

How can this be corrected?

David DayKingoftheWoods (talk) 14:58, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

This can be corrected if somebody writes a new article that indicates how WP:NPERSON is met. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, KingoftheWoods. Please look at the discussion at Talk:David Day (Canadian writer)#Notability. The editors discussing there found no evidence that you meet Wikiafripedia's criteria for notability, and so redirection was an alternative to deletion. If you dispute this, please present the three most relevant sources (remembering that they must be wholly independent of you, not based on interviews or press releases, reliably published, and contain significant coverage of you) for other editors to evaluate. --ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, ColinFine My independent credible course are:

Official Publishers

BC Book World - Quill and Quire -

I can supply many more links of sources if the publishers above are not credible.

Thank you for your help.

KingoftheWoods (talk) 16:46, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Those are absolutely NOT independent sources, they are primary sources. Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
They are credible, KingoftheWoods, but most of them are not independent of you; and the two that are (the New Scientist and Quill and Quire reviews) are about your books, but say almost nothing about you. It follows tht an article about you based on those seven sources would have almost no content. --ColinFine (talk) 17:10, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I am an author who has written over 50 books, translated into up to 20 languages (e.g. The Bestiary) with some of the most reputable publishers in the World. My books have been reviewed in the Times Literary Supplement, Time Magazine and Sunday Telegraph as well as LA Times and Detroit Free Press. Someone created my wikipedia page in 2003 and it suddenly disappeared to be redirected to a fan type page for the brilliant JRR Tolkien.

My university has a special collection of my books and awarded me a "distinguished alumni" award. My books have been in print and are still selling in the bookstores and on line. I am at a loss to prove validity for Wikiafripedia. My books are me. Please help?

KingoftheWoods (talk) 17:43, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, in looking at my peers and contemporaries who have wiki pages, my page had more sources. I did not create my page, it was created at the beginning of Wikiafripedia and this year, I tried to rectify some information. Is my university a credible source, if so, maybe the information here will help

I read through the notability and would like you to reconsider putting my page created at the beginning of Wikiafripedia back on line KingoftheWoods (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

KingoftheWoods, It is not the number of sources cited, but their quality and content that matter. Merely because a person has published books, even many books, through major publishers does not make that person notable. Critical reviews published by independent reliable publishers can contribute to notability, as described in WP:NAUTHOR, but the reviews must themselves be cited, and secondary sources about the author are also usual. Also, please beware of the fallacy known here as Other stuff exists. Attempting to reason that some other article is in some sense not as good but is still around and therefore the article in question should not be deleted or redirected almost never works. Either the answer is that there is some relevant difference in circumstances, or that the other article has just not been nominated for deletion yet, but should be. Among the over 6 million articles here are at least hundr3eds of thousands that should be deleted. Each article must stand or fall on its own merits. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 18:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Victor Schmidt

Thank you for answering the question. To clarify, you are saying that my reviews do not make me a notable WP:NAUTHOR because they are about the books and there is not enough about me. So it seems that it is not me that is notable, it is my books, I just happened to write them.

I did not have any input to the publication of the reviews in Time Magazine, New Scientist, Times Literary Supplement, Quill & Quire and New Scientist. These respected publications picked the books as their choice. Some of it was before the internet. These notable publications thought I was notable enough to review my books. Time Magazine listed me as the top 12 books that season. This is very upsetting not only to me but will be to the reviewers and to the publications concerned.

Also, If I understand you correctly, the person (I do not know who) that considered me notable in 2003 to publish the Wikiafripedia page should not have published the page? Since the page was published, I have written 12 more books and surely that adds to being a notable WP:NAUTHOR

All the citations that were on my website are available in hard copy and on line. There are many.

To go back to the original "ask" of supplying 3 creditable sources, will these do?

I also have endorsements in writing from Michael Palin, and Margaret Attwood as well as the late Terry Jones and Ted Hughes.

Also the Duke of Edinburgh has written the introduction to my Doomsday Book of Animals.

Is there anything else to be done?

KingoftheWoods (talk) 19:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I would strongly suggest you stop, Wikiafripedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. There are plenty of social-networking sites like Facebook where you can do that, Wikiafripedia is a project to build an encyclopedia. This is explained at Wikiafripedia is not about YOU and Wikiafripedia:Autobiography. If you are actually notable in Wikiafripedia terms someone unconnected with you will write an article eventually. Theroadislong (talk) 20:48, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) KingoftheWoods The first of those three is an announcement of a talk by you (I am assuming that you are in fact David Day). Bios that accompany such announcements are so commonly written by the speaker, and even when not, are so generally designed to puff up the speaker to encourage attendance, that they are not given much weight in notability decisions here. The alumni award may be of value, although it being given by an institution you are of course associated with reduces the value somewhat. The review of your book is probably of value. Under WP:NAUTHOR point 3, reviews of the books of an author mcan establish the notability of that author. This says: The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. I have used this in the past to successfully establish notability, see Wikiafripedia:Articles for deletion/David Katz (author) and the related David Katz (author). But do note the disagreement expressed in the discussion. Having some independent reliable sources that discuss you in detail will help a lot. Note that celebrity endorsements are of little or no value, as are introductions to books by well known people. I would be willing to work with you on creating a draft to merge into the previous version of the article. Are you interested? DES(talk)DESiegel Contribs 20:51, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello DES

Yes, I would be very very grateful for your help. Thank you for the offer. The above comments and notes were inserted to check if I could come up with credible sources. I did not know where to turn when someone told me that my page was deleted. Please let me know what you need me to do. KingoftheWoods (talk) 21:16, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Note: In case anyone wondered, there were broken user-links in several places above that may have prevented pings. I've taken the liberty of fixing them for archival purposes. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 21:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Continued on User talk:KingoftheWoods#Going forward on an article about you DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

How to turn off beta function[edit source | edit]

Hello, I added something to page User:DonGuess/common.js and now when I edit some bugs appear, how can I delete something from there?-DonGuess (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Heavily Shilled Biography[edit source | edit]

I came across a biography that seems to be heavily shilled and aggrandizing. When I tried to add a recent news development about racist tendencies it was deleted by another party. Most of the information is not sourced and seems rather fanciful (he invented the hydrogen car while in high school?) but attempts to question it are blocked. Can it be submitted for review by a larger group? β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, your addition of allegations of racism was unsourced and misplaced between another statement and its reference. When it was removed (rightly but without edit summary) you edit warred to replace it. (I've removed it again). You should not do either of these things. Please do not restore it without a good citation. The statement about the hydrogen car is referenced although I am not sure how reliable the source may be. Eagleash (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
[1] is the source that I put when referencing the racism. I'm not sure what you mean by "unsourced", as the San Francisco Chronicle is a major newspaper. In fact, the reference is still there. Look at Citation #3.β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
The page is now 'fixed'. The original edit placed the source but not directly against the text it was supposed to support. The initial reverting anonymous editor did not remove it when deleting the disputed text; probably because it was not clear what its purpose was. Now that the wording has been better placed and the references are supporting inline, the issue is resolved. Eagleash (talk) 10:23, 8 September 2020 (UTC)



YOUR SO CALLED EXPERTS EXIST BUT THEIR IS NO WAY TO CONTACT THEM BY PHONE OR EMAIL. YOUR OTHER APPROACH ARE LINES AND LINES OF MATERIALS THAT WOULD TAKE ME DAYS TO READ THROUGH. IS THERE A SOLUTION?? Wikiafripedia draft Richard T. Kusiolek Richard T. Kusiolek (born July 30, 1941 in Cook County Chicago, Illinois) is an American Author, Business Technology Consultant, and Digital and Print Media Publisher and Editor. Contents Biography Early Life Career Personal Life See Also References Biography Early life Kusiolek was born in Chicago Illinois. He graduated from Northern Illinois University and earned a Bachelor of Science in Management in 1968. In 1975, He earned a Master’s in Business Administration from San Francisco State University in International Business. His ancestors were Cossacks, a group of predominantly East Slavic-speaking Orthodox Christian people, became known as members of democratic, self-governing, semi-military communities, originating in the Pontic steppe. Career From 1995 to 2006, he worked in Silicon Valley of Northern California in Marketing Management for a wide range of technology companies. From 2006 to 2014, he was an adjunct professor of management for the Graduate Business Departments of San Jose and Hayward State Universities. He was a faculty member of the University of Phoenix in Marketing and Economics. In 2014, he launched GMC Stream, a global military communications digital and print magazine. Personal Life He has one son and two daughters who are professionals in health care and journalism. See Also Published Novels on References System for upstream broadband transmission.[1] Alternative Uses of Emergency Communications Networks Driving New Market [2] Digital publisher Aerospace and Defense.[3] Science Research in Technology.[4] Richard Theodor Kusiolek (talk) 17:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Richard Theodor Kusiolek, it's most likely because it looks like a fake article. While a light bio on your userpage is fine, it should not look like an article itself, especially if you're writing about yourself. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 17:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Richard Theodor Kusiolek, Taking a look at your deleted article, it was very promotional, and Wikiafripedia is not for promotion. Also, you seem to be writing about yourself, which we strongly discourage. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!βš“ 18:10, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@Richard Theodor Kusiolek: I think you have a few misconceptions about Wikiafripedia. To avoid your needing to read a bunch of stuff, here is a brief summary of salient points. First, this is an encyclopedia. It has articles about subjects that we consider notable. You do not appear to be notable by our definition, so Wikiafripedia should not have an article about you. Please do not put any more effort into creating an article about yourself unless you are certain you meet our notability guidelines, which you can read at WP:N. If you want a shorter explanation, look at WP:CSMN. If you do not meet our notability guidelines, you should find another venue for your article, such as Linkedin. Next, all of "experts" (about 100,000 individual editors in the last 30 days) are volunteers. None of us have any incentive or desire to assist you via phone or e-mail. Each of us has spent those "days of effort" that you wish to avoid. We spent that time in order to learn how to build an encyclopedia, not in order to help people write about themselves, which we discourage. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If, after reading, you do decide that you are notable, then please come back here and we can assist you with the next step. -Arch dude (talk) 18:16, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Furthermore, if you continue in your abusive and insulting tone, you risk being blocked from editing. JIP | Talk 23:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Calm down, JIP. This guy is frustrated of the guidelines, and as a first-timer, the person probably couldn't express frustration in a way that complies with Wikiafripedia standards. @Richard Theodor Kusiolek:, if you need more info, just contact me. You won't last long if you rant here.... :) Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 23:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


Branham High School[edit source | edit]

In the article about Branham High School it states that Branham was opened in 1970 by the Campbell Unified School District, I attended school there from September of 1967 until I Graduated on 13 Jun 1969, previously I attended high school at Leigh High another school in the Campbell district β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:DA80:45E0:8DC0:2905:9E19:A5F4 (talk) 21:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable, independent source that supports your claim? If you do you may want to bring this up over at Talk:Branham High School. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 22:43, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 Done I've corrected the page per the Smare cite, and added another cite. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 22:53, 7 September 2020 (UTC) Updated β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 23:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

September 8[edit source | edit]


DJ Kelly karsi is a well known disc jockey, his real name is Chukwudi chimaobi Ekwonna. Chukwudi chimaobi Ekwonna know as DJ Kelly karsi was Born in 2003.he is from a family of (6),four (4) boys and (2)two girls know as Uchechi Ekwonna,aham Ekwonna, Chinyere Ekwonna,Onyewuchi Ekwonna and Obioha Ekwonna. The father is a well known retired teacher and the mother is a well known hair dresser and also a business woman.DJ Kelly karsi schooled and completed his primary from nursery 1 to primary 6 and got his certificate at IMSU STAFF NURSERY AND PRIMARY School owerri IMO state Nigeria, he continued from jss1 to Ss3 and Got his certificate too, so he studied petroleum engineering at IMO state university Nigeria and granduted. DJ Kelly karsi is also known as an internet Master, he is a web designer,web creator, application developer, producer, logo maker, video Editor, and also had so many websites and apps. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Kelly karsi (talk β€’ contribs) 01:18, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Please read Wikiafripedia's advice against attempting to write an autobiography. David Biddulph (talk) 01:53, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Checking for the same name of companies profile[edit source | edit]

I discovered that there was a television company in America with the same name as an Italian currently active. The American one has been closed. It is called Wine TV. How can I do not to create confusion between the two broadcasters and insert the one at the operational moment? β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

The operational company should probably be at the title "Wine TV" while the closed company could be at "Wine TV (American company)", unless there are circumstances with which I am not aware that might warrant both pages having disambiguations in the title. Note that Wikiafripedia does not have "profiles", it has articles. 331dot (talk) 07:32, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, IP user. If you are considering creating an article about the Italian company, I advise using the articles for creation process to create a draft, and not worrying about the name for now. When the draft is submitted for review, and accepted, then the editor who accepts it will sort out the naming. Please be aware that creating a new article is a very difficult task for an inexperienced editor, and should start with finding suitable sources to demonstrate that the subject meets Wikiafripedia's criteria for notability, because if it those sources do not exist, there is no point in trying. More information is at Help:Your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:30, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Changing the name of a page[edit source | edit]


The F&W Media International page (we were F&W Media International) needs to be renamed to just David & Charles Ltd - how can we do this without individually going through the whole page to rename it all? Thanks! :) β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by SophieD&C (talk β€’ contribs) 09:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

SophieD&C To change the actual title, you need to request a page move at Requested Moves. The article text will need to be changed itself.
If you work for David & Charles, you will first need to read the paid editing policy and make the required declaration. You should also review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 09:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

This seems to have been done already. Was it done after the above was posted?Spinney Hill (talk) 07:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I think you missed my question[edit source | edit]

Nobody answered my question "How to turn off beta function" yesterday, maybe you missed it because I replied to it myself.DonGuess (talk) 13:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I didn't miss it, DonGuess. I had nothing useful to say to it so I didn't. What is your purpose in posting this further item? --ColinFine (talk) 15:17, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
@DonGuess: I'm guessing the question was "how do I remove something from User:DonGuess/common.js, the answer to which is that you go to that page and edit it, more or less like any other Wikiafripedia page. I see you also linked to another (presumably related) discussion there. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 21:51, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Wikitext help requested[edit source | edit]

I'd appreciate it if someone could take a look here. I would like to disembolden the two bulleted paragraphs.

Less importantly, I would prefer additionally to have the present italics / not italics swapped – in other words, all text (including the lead paragraph) to be not in italics, other than the initial words (in effect, "headings") of the two bulleted paragraphs. Is that possible?

Looking forward to benefiting from your advice. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί 💬  at 17:48, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:PD-because does not mention any way of controlling the formatting. SCHolar44, and looking at the source seems to confirm that. If the template doesn't do what you want, you will either need to persuade a template maintainer to add something (on the template's talk page) or take your own copy of the template and change its code. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Colin -- I'll follow up your suggestion. Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί 💬  at 17:48, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Kangan[edit source | edit]

proposed content

Kangan is a town in Ganderbal district of Jammu and Kashmir. As of 2001 India census, it had a population of 94874. The assembly constituency of Kangan is a part of Srinagar parliamentary constituency. The constituency has been the stronghold of National Conference. The party has occupied the seat since 1996. Mian Altaf Ahmed has been the MLA since 1987. He won the 2008 assembly elections by defeating Bashir Ahmad Mir of PDP. Ahmed secured 19210 votes as against Mir's 11495 votes.Politically Incorrect

Kangan Election Results 2014, J&K

About Kangan Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency Kangan is a town in Ganderbal district of Jammu and Kashmir. As of 2001 India census, it had a population of 94874. The assembly constituency of Kangan is a part of Srinagar parliamentary constituency. The constituency has been the stronghold of National Conference. The party has occupied the seat since 1996. Mian Altaf Ahmed has been the MLA since 1987. He won the 2008 assembly elections by defeating Bashir Ahmad Mir of PDP. Ahmed secured 19210 votes as against Mir's 11495 votes.

Sitting and previous MLAs from Kangan Assembly Constituency Below is the list of winners and runners-up in the Kangan assembly elections conducted so far.

1) 2014 16 Kangan Altaf Ahmad M

   JKNC	25812	Bashir Ahmad Mir	M	 
   PDP	24380

2)2008 16 Kangan GEN Mian.

   Altaf Ahmed	M	JKN	19210	 
   Bashir Ahmad Mir	M	JKPDP	 

3)2002 16 Kangan GEN Mian.

  Altaf Ahmed	M	JKN	16987	 
  Ghulam Mohd. Dar	M	PDP	 

4)1996 16 Kangan GEN Mian

  Altaf Ahmed	M	JKN	21553	 
  Qazi Mohd. Afzal	M	INC	954     )  5)1987	14	Kangan	GEN	Mian 
   Altaf Ahmed	M	INC	14644	 
   Gul.   Mohd. War	M	IND	9952

6)1977 14 Kangan GEN Bashir

   Ahmad	M	JKN	20808	Mohd. 
   Afzi	M	JNP	3090
   1972	14	Kangan	GEN	Bashir.   
   Ahmed Mian	M	INC	16593	 
   Bhat	M	JMI	3974

7)1967 14 Kangan GEN M. B.

   Ahmad	M	INC		 

8)1962 52 Kangan GEN Main.

    Nizam Ud-Din	M 

β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfan baniya (talk β€’ contribs) 14:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Irfan baniya, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is no point in posting proposed content here: it is unlikely that anybody will do anything with it. If you want to create an article, see Your first article. But be aware that writing an article is difficult, and starts with finding reliable published sources, which you should then cite in the draft article. --ColinFine (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
**help desk Ed talk! 17:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Are these external links appropriate?[edit source | edit]

I noticed in De'VIA#Notable De'VIA works, each paragraph links to an external site to show the artwork being described. Is this an appropriate use of inline external links? Also, seeing as three of the links were broken, I went looking for new sources, but two of them are hosted on blogspot. Is that acceptable to link to? Cheesycow5 (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

My concern is whether some of these may be violations of the artists' copyrights. Only one that I could see had a proper copyright notice. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

How to get Administrator job[edit source | edit]

Looking to get a administrator job in order to create articles and upload files but want to know how to get administrator job β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivian934 (talk β€’ contribs) 17:49, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vivian934: To be an administrator, you generally need to have a years-long track record here. But you don't need to be an administrator to upload files and create articles. That only requires being autoconfirmed (10 edits and 4 days' experience). See WP:AUTOCONFIRM for more info. (talk) 18:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
@Vivian934: You don't need to be an admin to create articles or upload files. An adminstrator on Wikiafripedia is more like a janitor that gets to clean up other's messes. It requires a large amount of experience on Wikiafripedia. See WP:RFA for some of the guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 18:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Sack Trick[edit source | edit]

Should the three Sack Trick albums not be listed at the top of Wikiafripedia:Articles for deletion/Sack Trick? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

add new photo to place[edit source | edit]

I have recently shot new photos for a house and wanted to update the exterior photo for the page. How do I do that?,_North_Carolina)

Thanks - Dan β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:49, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

First, you will need to upload the photos to Wikimedia Commons, agreeing to to release them under the appropriate copyright license. After you have uploaded them to Commons using the upload wizard, Commons will present you with the appropriate Wikicode for including them in the article. Edit Shaw House (Shawboro, North Carolina) and add them to the article. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Problem with the name of an article[edit source | edit]

Template:Courtesy link


I need to change the name of the article because our company's name has changed. Who should I ask for help. As a contributor I cannot move the article and change the name myself. I tried the talk page but it lists the groups that have made the page and no one precise person I can contact for this edit. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltevos (talk β€’ contribs) 19:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Ltevos, assuming that it isn't a controversial move you can ask for a technical move request. It seems with your claim of our company, you work for said company, and as such are required to disclose your paid editing on your user page ({{Paid}} is generally used). In cases like these it's strongly encouraged for you to submit edit requests on the article's talk page instead of editing it directly yourself. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 19:21, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Note: OP moved article to LycΓ©e FranΓ§ais Anatole France. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 22:56, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Image cropping[edit source | edit]

So, if I find an image on Commons that I want to use in an article, but I don't want to use the whole image, is there any way to instruct the software to display a cropped version without my having to download, crop, and reupload the cropped image? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 23:08, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: Maybe {{CSS image crop}}. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 01:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Request to edit[edit source | edit]

Hi, I want to edit pages. But I don't want to create an account or log in for personal reasons. How can I be autoconfirmed? 2601:1C2:4E00:B89:D079:95A0:153D:FC43 (talk) 23:20, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

You need an account to be autoconfirmed. If you are unable to edit pages due to page protection, you can leave edit requests on the articles' associated talk pages. β€”Tenryuu πŸ² ( πŸ’¬ β€’ πŸ“ ) 23:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Keep in mind that creating an account is even more anonymous than editing as an IP. There's no proof of identity or anything like that required, and your contributions are associated with that name instead of an IP address that lets people see where you are and who your ISP is. There are other benefits of registering, too, like all sorts of helpful gadgets and being able to customize various aspects of page appearance. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 01:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

EverGreen[edit source | edit]

I tried Creating Wikiafripedia Account and the Continuous Message that Comes Up is "Your IP Address has Been Block." Please, is there Anything I can do to unblock it? β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

If your IP was blocked you would not have been able to post here. If it is blocked in the future, you should follow any instructions given to you to request unblock. 331dot (talk) 23:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Removal of the Update flag on "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit filmography" page[edit source | edit]

A banner was placed in August 2017 on the page suggesting that it be updated because of a new book had been published. It has been updated and there are a plethora of references to said book. Could the banner please be removed. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Oswald fan (talk β€’ contribs) 23:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Done! SCHolar44 (talk) 04:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

September 9[edit source | edit]

Question on table with column of dates[edit source | edit]


I haven't edited many articles with tables, and I happened to be looking at this one List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_Nevada, and I noticed that when I clicked on the column header "Years" it sorted the table by month, not by year. By that I mean it had all the December dates, then all of the January dates, then all the March Dates, etc. It sorted the table in alphabetical order by the spelled out name of the month, not by the year.

How can I edit the table to make the dates sort correctly?

Morris (talk) 02:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Mpearl: Working on it. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 03:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 Done @Mpearl: The table code doesn't recognize a date range as being a date, so just sorts it as a string. I created {{Sdr}}, which takes the starting and ending dates of the term and formats them, along with a data-sort-value containing just the starting date (which the table code knows how to sort correctly). β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 07:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Images[edit source | edit]

I'd like to learn how to upload images in Wikiafripedia and how I should know about the copyrights and such. Hope someone helps me go through it step by step. Thank you so much! β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Lriverb (talk β€’ contribs) 08:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Lriverb: Please see WP:IMAGE#Tutorials and help for links to various types of tutorials and WP:IMAGE#Policy and guidelines for policies. Copyright can be a complicated subject, but in general, pictures you take yourself with your own camera can be uploaded and used in articles. Anything else (images from the web, books, newspapers, your friends, even family) cannot be used unless they are specifically released for use or modification by anyone, for any reason, including commercial (i.e. selling them). There are, of course, exceptions, which is what all the documentation is about. Let us know if you have further specific questions. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 08:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Please delete defaming and derogatory text for Rhea Chakraborty IMMEDIATELY[edit source | edit]

That page is her bio graphy... who write such things on a girl's bio page??? It is ridiculous! She is already suffering a lot. Please delete is her bio graphy not newS report. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyropic (talk β€’ contribs) 08:14, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pyropic: Wikiafripedia wan'ts to maintain a neutral point of view. I couldn't find a violation of Wikiafripedia rules on that page. Please be advised that I dont like it is not a valid reason to delete a page. (Side note: Wikiafripedia is a slow process. We don't delete stuff immedately in the sence I suspect above) Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pyropic: You'll have to be more specific, at the article's talk page (Talk:Rhea Chakraborty), which is being well-watched. β€”[AlanM1 (talk)]β€” 08:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Twinkle and Curation toolbar[edit source | edit]

Hi! Just wanted to receive more information about using Twinkle and the Curation toolbar. I'd like to use this on my edits but I need more guidance on how to operate them. I've been reading about them in Wikiafripedia but I want to know where to find and how to incorporate them in pages.

Thank you very much. β€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Bekkadn (talk β€’ contribs) 10:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)